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CyclistTrek Madone Gen 8 vs Pinarello Dogma F vs Specialized Tarmac SL8If youre looking for a top-end road race bike, the Trek Madone, Pinarello Dogma F and Specialized Tarmac SL8 are three bikes that have surely made your shortlist.All are raced at the top level of pro cycling and, at the top of their respective ranges, bear a pricetag to match. But Trek, Pinarello and Specialized also offer more affordable options that share the DNA of their premium models, so youre not committed to spending 10,000-plus if you are looking for a race bike from any of the three brands.Specialized applies its S-Works branding to its premium Tarmacs and Pinarello only uses the Dogma tag for its top spec F-series bikes, as well as its Dogma X endurance bike. Trek is more generous with its Madone label, using it for the whole range, but differentiates between the premium SLR and lower carbon grade SL framesets.Well guide you through the three bikes key features and the available ranges and, lower down, well make some suggestions for how to choose between them.Trek Madone vs Pinarello Dogma vs Specialized Tarmac: Key features at a glanceTrek Madone Gen 8Generation 8 is both aero and low in weightTwo carbon frame grades: OCLV 900, OCLV 500Trek Race GeometryAero bar/stem on SLR specs32mm tyre clearancePinarello Dogma F / F-seriesNew Dogma F lowers weight and is disc brake onlyAsymmetric aero frame designThree carbon grades: M40X, T900, T700F9 and some F7 and F5 specs not sold in the UK30mm tyre clearanceSpecialized Tarmac SL8Lightweight/aero race bikeTwo carbon grades: FACT 12r, FACT 10rLighter and more aero than the Tarmac SL7SL7 still sold at lower specs32mm tyre clearanceNew Trek Madone vs new Pinarello Dogma F vs Specialized Tarmac SL8: latest updatesSam ChallisThe Madone and the Dogma F were updated more or less at the same time, just ahead of the 2024 Tour de France.The Madone had the most radical makeover, with the Gen 8 bike essentially a significantly slimmed-down version of the Gen 7 bike. It retains the dramatic IsoFlow seat tube design with the central hole under the seatpost, but pares everything down to lose around 300g in mass.In contrast, the Dogma Fs weight-shedding hacks have been more modest, although it too has been on a diet, losing a claimed 108g. It now incorporatesa narrower, longer head tube, narrower down tube and new, shorter thru-axles, which are enveloped by the frame at their far ends. The lower spec F-series bikes were last updated in early 2023 and have much in common with the previous generation Dogma F.The Tarmac SL8 was the earliest of the three bikes to be updated, although it was still relatively recently in August 2023. Again, its been slimmed down from its predecessor, with a narrower head tube and seat tube. It also now has a one-piece bar/stem on top spec bikes, as do the Dogma F and Madone Gen 8.Trek Madone vs Pinarello Dogma F vs Specialized Tarmac SL8: aerodynamicsTrekDespite the shallower tube profiles and smaller IsoFlow cavity under the seatpost, Trek says that the Gen 8 Madone is as aero as the Gen 7 bike. The new bar-stem on the SLR bikes is thicker than the Gen 7s though, which Trek says improves airflow further back, directing it away from the riders legs.The loosening of the UCIs frame geometry rules has allowed Pinarello to deepen the head tube in the latest generation Dogma F, with a pronounced nose to help aerodynamics. The new bike also has a keel under the bottom bracket, which Pinarello says helps airflow, while the seat tube and seatpost are thinned down.In contrast, the F-Series bikes take their profiles from the previous generation Dogma F, albeit slightly smoothed out, and lack the deeper profiles and the keel, making them a little less aerodynamically efficient.Specialized too has lengthened the head tube and added a sharper front prominence to its front. It claims that this, along with a new one-piece bar/stem, is a major contributor to the bikes improved aerodynamics. Its also thinned out the seat tube/seatpost, as it says that streamlined shapes are less significant further towards the rear of a bike.Trek Madone vs Pinarello Dogma F vs Specialized Tarmac SL8: weightSam ChallisPrevious generations of the Dogma F-series bikes used to be on the heavy side for pro-level race bikes, which is why Ineos Grenadiers persisted in riding the Dogma F12 with rim brakes after other pro teams had made the switch to disc brakes. The latest Dogma F has shed enough weight to skim the UCIs 6.8kg weight limit, even with disc brakes the only choice, as Pinarello no longer offers a rim brake option.Likewise, the Madone Gen 7 was chunky enough that pro riders took to the Emonda for mountain stages. Thats changed with the Gen 8 Madone, which now has a 7kg claimed weight in premium specs, leading to the demise of the Emonda.The Specialized S-Works Tarmac SL8 too is right on the 6.8kg UCI weight limit for the top spec bikes, carving a slice off the weight of its predecessor.As youd expect, when you drop down the range for all three brands weights increase, driven by less expensive, heavier carbon layups and the selection of lower priced components.Trek Madone vs Pinarello Dogma F vs Specialized Tarmac SL8: sizingTrek has narrowed down the range of sizes offered for the Madone from eight for the Gen 7 bike to six for the Gen 8. It says that this has reduced overlaps between frame sizes, so that choosing the right frame size is easier for riders who fall on the boundary between two sizes. At the same time, riders at the short and tall end of the height spectrum are better accommodated, with sizes claimed to fit rider heights between 143cm and 213cm.In contrast, Pinarello sells the Dogma F in 11 sizes and the F-series frame in nine sizes, which it says is more than any of its competitors, helping buyers to choose the right fit for them. It recommends you visit a dealer to help choose the right size frame for you.The Tarmac SL8 is sold in seven sizes, offering slightly greater frame size choice than the Madone but still not as much as Pinarello. It claims to cater for riders from 142cm to 196cm tall.Trek Madone vs Pinarello Dogma F vs Specialized Tarmac SL8: handlebarsLizzie CrabbWith the top spec bikes including an integrated bar/stem, choosing the right combination for you is also important. Trek has 21 different bar width/stem length combinations from 380x80mm up to 440x120mm, with the Aero RSL bar/stem on the SLR bikes being 30mm narrower on the tops than in the drops.The Dogma Fs Most Talon Ultra Fast bar/stem also has a flared profile and is available in 28 different width/length combinations. Pinarello measures its bar widths from the outside of the drops, so its available 400mm to 460mm widths are actually 20mm narrower than they appear and in line with the Madone.The Tarmacs Roval Rapide Cockpit comes in 15 sizes, covering the same 380mm to 420mm range. Its not as flared as the Trek and Pinarello bars at just 4 degrees, giving you more hand space on the tops, but potentially a slightly less aero ride position on the hoods.While the higher spec bikes use a one-piece design, in all three ranges lower spec bikes revert to a separate bar and stem which together offer greater adjustability.Trek Madone vs Pinarello Dogma F vs Specialized Tarmac SL8: geometry and frame featuresMadone Gen 8Dogma FTarmac SL8Frame sizeML52056Seat tube length512520494Seat tube angle73.473.473.5Head tube length150142157Head tube angle73.572.873.5Effective top tube length557557563Bottom bracket drop707272Chainstay length410408410Reach389389395Stack562562565Wheelbase980Not provided991All figures in mm unless indicatedGeometry-wise the three bikes have a lot in common, as indicated by the comparison above of their size 56-equivalent frames. The Tarmac SL8 is a little longer than the other two bikes, as shown by the frame reach and wheelbase, while Pinarellos head tube length is shorter and its angle slacker than the Madone or Tarmac. Despite this, its stack is near-identical. Pinarello doesnt offer offset or trail figures, so we cant judge whether these compensate for the slacker head tube.Pinarellos geometry is similar between the Dogma F and other F-Series bikes, although with the different range of available sizes the two dont completely line up. Although its not the only brand to build its bikes asymmetrically, the brand emphasises its asymmetric design, particularly in the rear triangle, which it claims helps even out forces acting on the frame due to the drivetrain.The trend across performance bike makers is to slim down the seat tube. That makes placement of the internal battery for Shimano electronic groupsets more difficult; whereas previous generations of the bikes had the battery housed in the seatpost, thats no longer possible.Pinarello houses its Di2 battery under a weatherproof cover in the bottom of the seat tube. The Madone Gen 8s Di2 battery also resides in the bottom of the seat tube in a separate housing and is inserted through the bottom bracket, while Specialized uses a sleeve that holds the battery below the seatpost.Trek Madone vs Pinarello Dogma F vs Specialized Tarmac SL8: groupset optionsSam ChallisThe premium specs all get a choice of top-of-the-range groupsets, either Shimano Dura-Ace or SRAM Red. Pinarello also offers a Campagnolo Super Record WLR option, although this isnt sold in the UK.As usual, move down the price scale and youll move down the groupset spec. Trek finishes with a mechanical Shimano 105 base spec, while Pinarello stops at the electronic 105 Di2 and Specialized at SRAM Rival.A power meter is increasingly seen as an essential for a performance-oriented bike and offered factory-fitted to many higher spec bikes from multiple brands. Here, Specialized does best, with both Shimano and SRAM specs including a power meter.Trek is more frugal, not fitting a power meter to its Shimano specs, but speccing the in-series power meters to its SRAM bikes. In contrast, Pinarello does not offer specs with a power meter for any of its bikes.Trek Madone vs Pinarello Dogma F vs Specialized Tarmac SL8: wheelsLizzie CrabbAll three brands offer premium wheels on their top spec bikes. In the case of the Madone, these come from Treks in-house Bontrager Aeolus range, while Specialized fits its Roval Rapide CLX II wheels.Pinarello offers a choice of either Princeton Carbonworks Peak 4550 DB or DT Swiss ARC 1400 wheels on its Shimano and SRAM spec Dogma bikes and Bora WTO wheels for the Campagnolo spec.Lower down the bike ranges, all three brands offer lower spec in-house carbon wheels, while Trek and Pinarellos lowest spec bikes are in each case equipped with alloy rim wheels. All the bikes can be set up tubeless.Trek Madone vs Pinarello Dogma F vs Specialized Tarmac SL8: tyre clearanceSam ChallisAll three bikes offer moderately large tyre clearance, which is up on previous generations of their framesets. For a race-oriented bike, tyre clearance, particularly in the rear triangle, is a balancing act: more clearance in general means longer chainstays, which lead to less snappy performance, which potentially downgrades the racy ride feel.Both Trek and Specialized have increased their clearance to allow 32mm tyres, while Pinarello has stayed at 30mm. Trek Madone vs Pinarello F vs Specialized Tarmac SL8: frame gradesThe Pinarello Dogma F makes use of a new carbon fibre recently introduced by Toray. Called M40X, its claimed to provide a high-tensile modulus, which Pinarello says allowed it to reduce weight but still make the frameset even stiffer than its predecessor.Both Trek and Specialized also claim lighter and stiffer properties for their latest carbon fibre mixes in their top spec bikes. Theyre likely to be similar to Pinarellos, as there are limited sources for premium carbon fibre, although they have proprietary names: OCLV 900 and FACT 12r, respectively.All three brands use lower spec carbon thats less expensive but heavier further down their ranges. Trek calls its version OCLV 500, while Specialized has FACT 10r. Pinarello uses Toray T900 fibre in its F9 and F7 and T700 fibre in its F5 framesets.Trek Madone vs Pinarello Dogma F vs Specialized Tarmac SL8: ranges comparedNext, well run through all the specs available for the three bikes, along with their prices.Trek Madone bike rangeTrekThe Madone Gen 8 is offered in four SLR specs, with the higher grade 900 Series OCLV carbon and another four SL specs with OCLV 500 grade carbon. As of August 2024, you could also still buy the Gen 7 Madone, which weve not covered here.Madone SLR 9 AXS Gen 8Frame/fork: Madone Gen 8 900 Series OCLV CarbonHandlebars: Trek Aero RSL Road one-piece carbonGroupset: SRAM Red AXS 12-speed, 48/35t, 10-33tPower meter: SRAM RedWheels: Bontrager Aeolus RSL 51 carbonSaddle: Bontrager Aeolus RSL carbon railClaimed weight: 7.00kg (size ML)Price: 12,500Madone SLR 9 Gen 8Frame/fork: Madone Gen 8 900 Series OCLV CarbonHandlebars: Trek Aero RSL Road one-piece carbonGroupset: Shimano Dura-Ace 12-speed, 52/36t, 11-30tPower meter: NoWheels: Bontrager Aeolus RSL 51 carbonSaddle: Bontrager Aeolus RSL carbon railClaimed weight: 7.08kg (size ML)Price: 12,000Madone SLR 7 AXS Gen 8Frame/fork: Madone Gen 8 900 Series OCLV CarbonHandlebars: Trek Aero RSL Road one-piece carbonGroupset: SRAM Force AXS 12-speed, 48/35t, 10-33tPower meter: SRAM ForceWheels: Bontrager Aeolus Pro 51 carbonSaddle: Bontrager Aeolus Pro carbon railClaimed weight: 7.43kg (size ML)Price: 8,500Madone SLR 7 Gen 8Frame/fork: Madone Gen 8 900 Series OCLV CarbonHandlebars: Trek Aero RSL Road one-piece carbonGroupset: Shimano Ultegra 12-speed, 52/36t, 11-30tPower meter: NoWheels: Bontrager Aeolus Pro 51 carbonSaddle: Bontrager Aeolus Pro carbon railClaimed weight: 7.31kg (size ML)Price: 8,000Madone SL 7 Gen 8Frame/fork: Madone Gen 8 500 Series OCLV CarbonHandlebars: Bontrager RSL Aero carbon on Trek RCS Pro alloy stemGroupset: Shimano Ultegra 12-speed, 50/34t, 11-34tPower meter: NoWheels: Bontrager Aeolus Pro 51 carbonSaddle: Bontrager Aeolus Elite alloy railClaimed weight: 7.88kg (size ML)Price: 6,000Madone SL 6 AXS Gen 8Frame/fork: Madone Gen 8 500 Series OCLV CarbonHandlebars: Bontrager Comp alloy on Trek RCS Pro alloy stemGroupset: SRAM Rival 12-speed, 48/35t, 10-36tPower meter: SRAM RivalWheels: Bontrager Aeolus Elite 35 carbonSaddle: Bontrager Aeolus Comp steel railClaimed weight: 8.43kg (size ML)Price: 4,750Madone SL 6 Gen 8Frame/fork: Madone Gen 8 500 Series OCLV CarbonHandlebars: Bontrager Comp alloy on Trek RCS Pro alloy stemGroupset: Shimano 105 Di2 12-speed, 50/34t, 11-34tPower meter: NoWheels: Bontrager Aeolus Elite 35 carbonSaddle: Bontrager Aeolus Comp steel railClaimed weight: 8.16kg (size ML)Price: 4,250Madone SL 5 Gen 8Frame/fork: Madone Gen 8 500 Series OCLV CarbonHandlebars: Bontrager Comp alloy on Trek RCS Pro alloy stemGroupset: Shimano 105 mechanical 12-speed, 50/34t, 11-34tPower meter: NoWheels: Bontrager Paradigm SLSaddle: Bontrager Aeolus Comp steel railClaimed weight: 8.70kg (size ML)Price: 3,250Trek Madone Gen 8 framesetThe Madone frameset is available at both the SLR level with 900 Series carbon, priced at 4,575, and SL level with 500 Series carbon, for 2,750. Trek also sells a variety of previous generation Madone frames.Pinarello F-series bike rangeSam ChallisPinarello slims down its global range for UK riders, omitting some specs. So the Dogma F is not sold with Campagnolo Super Record WRL in the UK, none of the F9 series bikes is available to UK buyers and theres only one of the two F7 specs sold.Pinarello Dogma F Dura-Ace Di2Frame/fork: Toray Carbon M40XHandlebars: Most Talon Ultra Fast carbonGroupset: Shimano Dura-Ace 12-speed, 52/36t, 11-30tPower meter: NoWheels: Princeton Peak 4550 DB carbon/DT Swiss ARC 1400Saddle: Most Lynx Ultrafast Superflow L CarbonClaimed weight: 6.77kg (size 53)Price: 12,500Pinarello Dogma F SRAM Red AXSFrame/fork: Toray Carbon M40XHandlebars: Most Talon Ultra Fast carbonGroupset: SRAM Red AXS 12-speed, 48/35t, 10-33tPower meter: NoWheels: Princeton Peak 4550 DB carbon/DT Swiss ARC 1400Saddle: Most Lynx Ultrafast Superflow L CarbonClaimed weight: 6.63kg (size 53)Price: 13,000Pinarello Dogma F Super Record WRL (not sold in the UK)Frame/fork: Toray Carbon M40XHandlebars: Most Talon Ultra Fast carbonGroupset: Campagnolo Super Record WRL 12-speed, 48/32t, 10-29tPower meter: NoWheels: Campagnolo Bora WTOSaddle: Most Lynx Ultrafast Superflow L CarbonClaimed weight: 6.88kg (size 53)Price: N/APinarello F9 Dura-Ace Di2 (not sold in the UK)Frame/fork: Toray T900 UDHandlebars: Most Talon Ultra Light carbonGroupset: Shimano Dura-Ace 12-speed, 52/36t, 11-30tPower meter: NoWheels: Most Ultrafast 40 carbonSaddle: Not specifiedClaimed weight: Not specifiedPrice: N/APinarello F9 SRAM Red AXS (not sold in the UK)Frame/fork: Toray T900 UDHandlebars: Most Talon Ultra Light carbonGroupset: SRAM Red AXS 12-speed, 48/35t, 10-33tPower meter: NoWheels: Most Ultrafast 40 carbonSaddle: Not specifiedClaimed weight: Not specifiedPrice: N/APinarello F7 Ultegra Di2Frame/fork: Toray Carbon T900 UDHandlebars: Most Talon Ultra Light carbonGroupset: Shimano Ultegra 12-speed, 52/36t, 11-30tPower meter: NoWheels: Most Ultrafast 40 carbonSaddle: Not specifiedClaimed weight: Not specifiedPrice: 7,000Pinarello F7 SRAM Force AXS (not sold in the UK)Frame/fork: Toray Carbon T900 UDHandlebars: Most Talon Ultra Light carbonGroupset: SRAM Force AXS 12-speed, 48/35t, 10-33tPower meter: NoWheels: Most Ultrafast 40 carbonSaddle: Not specifiedClaimed weight: Not specifiedPrice: N/APinarello F5 105 Di2Frame/fork: Toray Carbon T700 UDHandlebars: Most Jaguar XA Aero alloyGroupset: Shimano 105 Di2 12-speed, 52/36t, 11-30tPower meter: NoWheels: Fulcrum Racing 800DB alloySaddle: Not specifiedClaimed weight: Not specifiedPrice: 5,000Pinarello Dogma F framesetPinarello also sells the Dogma F frameset, which costs 5,500.Specialized Tarmac SL8 bike rangeLizzie CrabbAlongside its main range, Specialized also sells the S-Works model as a series of short run LTD options. In August 2024, LTD bikes included a Red Bull-Bora Hansgrohe team replica bike, priced at 14,500, with 500 available, the Forward 50 Collection bike at the same price, celebrating the brands 50th anniversary, available in a run of 250, and a special colourway for the launch of second generation SRAM Red AXS, priced at 12,500, with 300 available.You can also buy the previous generation Tarmac SL7 as entry level Tarmac builds, which we havent covered here.The Pro specs of the Tarmac are not currently showing on Specializeds UK site, so UK riders just have the S-Works and Expert bikes to choose from, although US riders can still select the Pro spec bikes too.S-Works Tarmac SL8 Shimano Dura-Ace Di2Frame/fork: S-Works Tarmac SL8 FACT 12rHandlebars: Roval Rapide Cockpit one-pieceGroupset: Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 52/36, 11-30t 12-speedPower meter: 4iiii Precision 3 Pro double sidedWheels: Roval Rapide CLX IISaddle: BG S-Works PowerClaimed weight: 6.62kg, size 56Price: 12,000S-Works Tarmac SL8 SRAM Red AXSFrame/fork: S-Works Tarmac SL8 FACT 12rHandlebars: Roval Rapide Cockpit one-pieceGroupset: SRAM Red AXS 48/35, 10-33t 12-speedPower meter: SRAM Red AXS double sidedWheels: Roval Rapide CLX IISaddle: S-Works Power with MirrorClaimed weight: 6.66kg, size 56Price: 12,000Specialized Tarmac SL8 Pro Ultegra Di2Frame/fork: Tarmac SL8 FACT 10rHandlebars: Roval Rapide carbon on Tarmac integrated stemGroupset: Shimano Ultegra Di2 52/36, 11-30t 12-speedPower meter: 4iiii Precision 3 single sidedWheels: Roval Rapide CL IISaddle: BG Power ProClaimed weight: 7.16kg, size 56Price: 8,000Specialized Tarmac SL8 Pro SRAM Force AXSFrame/fork: Tarmac SL8 FACT 10rHandlebars: Roval Rapide carbon on Tarmac integrated stemGroupset: SRAM Force AXS 48/35, 10-33t 12-speedPower meter: SRAM Force double sidedWheels: Roval Rapide CL IISaddle: BG Power ProClaimed weight: 7.44kg, size 56Price: 8,000Specialized Tarmac SL8 ExpertFrame/fork: Tarmac SL8 FACT 10rHandlebars: Specialized Expert Shallow Drop alloy on Tarmac integrated stemGroupset: SRAM Rival AXS 48/35, 10-36t 12-speedPower meter: SRAM Rival single sidedWheels: Roval C38 carbonSaddle: BG Power ExpertClaimed weight: 7.77kg, size 56Price: 6,000Specialized Tarmac SL8 framesetYou can buy the S-Works Tarmac SL8 as a FACT 12r carbon frameset in a range of colours, priced at 4,750 and with a claimed 1.41kg weight for a size 56 or unpainted, when the claimed weight drops to 1.37kg.Theres also a FACT 10r frameset available, priced at 3,500 and with a claimed weight of 1.69kg for a size 56.Trek Madone vs Pinarello Dogma F vs Specialized Tarmac SL8: which should you choose?If youre in the market for a premium spec bike, youre spoiled for choice. All three brands offer pro-level options equipped with drivetrains from SRAM and Shimano, although only Pinarello sells a Campagnolo Super Record WLR spec, and not in the UK. They all fit wheels and other components to match and prices are comparable between brands.All three claim class-leading aerodynamics and UCI-skimming weights too. Absent any direct comparisons to back that up, choice is to a large extent a matter of personal preference and looks. The inclusion or absence of a power meter might be a deciding factor though, particularly for Shimano spec bikes.Pinarello Dogma bikes have always been an aspirational purchase and the distinctive frame design turns heads even among non-cyclists, although it remains divisive.In contrast, the Tarmac SL8, notwithstanding its racing palmares, looks more like a classic race bike and blends into the crowd more.Thats not true of the Madone, which like the Pinarello F is a head-turner.If youre looking further down the price range, all three brands cater for the mid-level purchase, although youll get better value from the American brands. Only Trek offers a more affordable base spec with mechanical 105.Read our further coverage of the Trek Madone Gen 8, new Pinarello Dogma F and Specialized Tarmac SL8 for more.The post Trek Madone Gen 8 vs Pinarello Dogma F vs Specialized Tarmac SL8 appeared first on Cyclist.

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